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We have a time zone system for request lift?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
An anon mentioned in the above thread that the mods have a time zone system for request lift, so I hope to bring this to their attention.

Long story short, during the period between Jan 3rd and Feb 24th, there were 11 freeze lifts. And here’s a table of the starting and finishing time of each freeze lifts:

http://img225.imageshack.us/f/freezelift.jpg/
Graph: http://img846.imageshack.us/i/graph.jpg/

The highlighted time periods are between 5:30pm to 12am.
Based on the assumption that most people have school or work, the evening hours seem to be the most reasonable time for people to be at home and be able to post requests.

As you can see in the chart, the freeze lifts favored the time frame between GMT 3pm to 8pm. And it is very unevenly distributed; for example, one time zone observed 73% of lifts during the evening hours while another time zone observed only 18% of lifts during similar hours.

Now take a look at how many fills are posted between 1/25-2/1 and 2/8-2/15 (a total of 16 days randomly selected):

http://img22.imageshack.us/f/fillsd.jpg/

The most active time period when authors and artists are posting their fills is between GMT 12am to 5am. Assuming people aren’t waking up in the middle of the night or ditching school/work to post their fills, GMT 12am to 5am seems to be the reasonable time for them.

Flip back to the previous chart, and you will find only 2 out of 11 freeze lifts fall within GMT 12am to 5am.

Just want to note that I fill whenever I am inspired, and I have only requested once in Part 8 or something. On the other hand, I know people who fill because they want to help lift the freeze so they can request… so that's why I am bringing this up.

Re: America - rice? o-o''

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't his character profile say most nations don't like him?

Re: America - rice? o-o''

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
to be fair, the OP was talking about people that America gets along with, which I agree might not necessary equals friends.

Re: America - rice? o-o''

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with the other anon that this is a matter of head canon. And there is a difference between getting along and being friends. In my head canon, America can get along with most people, but he does not share his thoughts or trust any of them enough. When he thought about his past with England, he didn't share anything with Lith. When he was getting sentimental about having a family and Finland offered to be his dad, he changed the subject and joked about it.

I can also see why its easy to pair him up with almost anyone (romantically or otherwise). America is perhaps the easiest (and to me, the most fun) character to read and write well because he is flexible. You can give him an immature mind (since he looks 19) or a mature attitude (since he is actually hundreds of years old). He is hyperactive and happy go lucky (his default mode) and he can also be serious and apologetic (great depression strip). There is so many things you can do with him :) His personality makes him easy to work with and easy to pair up with other personality types.

Again, this is the head canon I have after reading the canon.

Re: We have a time zone system for request lift?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
Image (http://arch.413chan.net/SlowClap-01-(n1299608822395).jpg)

Re: Grrr request freeze >>;;

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I'd be interested to know where the mods are around the world. But I guess if some are early birds and some night owls then it also throws another element into the mix on top of what time zone they each live in.

Also, from previous comments some mods have made, it seems like not all of them are confident in lifting the freeze. I've seen comments like "this is my first time lifting it".

I didn't realise they were alternating who was lifting. I assumed it was whomever logged in and noticed we were over 50/50 fills. But good to know that they are!

Re: We have a time zone system for request lift?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
On the other hand, I know people who fill because they want to help lift the freeze so they can request

I don't think I understand what you mean. Could you explain this?

No and yes

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
A previous anon put it very elegantly. He is easy and flexible to write so yes he can be paired with just about anyone in the fandom. Other characters can be too though may not be used as easily as America. That is in the /fandom/ however.

The wiki archives is down for Hetalia so I can't double check (I always double check there so Ill repost something once its up) but I am nearly 100 percent certain that it said his only 'real' friends were a few (Liet, Uk, Japan I think). Everyone else...he gets along with them but isn't really friends. Its more like those people you say hey to and chat with but arent really going to be hanging out with anytime soon or if you do they with him.

In one of the strips he breaks into Japan's house and prior to that Japan's attitude seems to be 'why is he even here?'
These two are friends and friends annoy each other but if America (and he probably does) treats others who aren't his friends like that then its easy to see how his relationships go. I'm sure most characters are just acquaintances or not-so-close friends.


I'm not saying America is a 'bad' character though. For from it infact! I'm just saying that he may seem like a rice character due to fandom and personal preferences however it just seems to be a bit different in canon.

Re: We have a time zone system for request lift?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
Okay so some live in different time zones and others don't the ones that live in the same one seem to be the ones that can lift it most often. Fine. The best thing to do is volunteer to help them or something because honestly its not their fault where they live. If I were them I would NOT want to get up early or sleep in late in order to lift it so that people in Japan can request. If I'm at work I wouldn't wanna risk doing that either.

Its what fits their schedule. They can't help having lives. Maybe if you tell them this and find a way to resolve it/tell them you want to help make it more efficient somehow or ask why its like this it be of better use.

Not saying what you did is useless however. People now know what times requests will most likely lift.

Tokyopo translations re friends

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 09:54 am (UTC)(link)
/diff

"Unfortunately, due to his egotistical personality, England and Japan are his only friends. [...] If a UFO crash-landed in his backyard, it is likely that his boss is friends with the alien inside." (Vol 1, pg 45)

"Because of his impulsive nature, the only people who can tolerate him are England and Japan. Despite the fact that he is close personal friends with space aliens, he is unable to see things like unicorns and fairies." (Vol 2, pg 16)

So his only canon friends are England, Japan, and Tony; and he wanted to be friends with whales (The Black Ships have Come). Obviously he gets along in canon with other nations, and as one of the main characters he interacts with a lot of other characters, so there's evidence for whatever relationship people want to support. It's just that these other relationships are fanon, not canon.

Also, there was already a speculative thread about friends here: http://community.livejournal.com/hetaliakinkchat/598.html?thread=139606#t139606

Re: We have a time zone system for request lift?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Might want to update this; there are five more lifts since you stopped recording, and three of them are in or within half an hour of the 12am-5am period you're concerned about.
I applaud your tabulations into time zone though, you keep much more colourful records than i do!

Also, of course, the lifts in the most popular times will not last as many hours because they have a lot more requests per hour, and that sort of distorts how much opportunity seems to be given to the different zones.

Re: America - rice? o-o''

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I can also see why its easy to pair him up with almost anyone (romantically or otherwise). America is perhaps the easiest (and to me, the most fun) character to read and write well because he is flexible.

Well, that's one opinion. I think he's one of the hardest and least fun characters to write.

Re: Tokyopo translations re friends

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with going with those quotes are the fact that more characters have been added since they were written. I'm thinking specifically of Australia, maybe Taiwan and New Zealand (although those last two are probably somewhere between friend and acquaintance). But Australia definitively.

Re: We have a time zone system for request lift?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The only way I can think of to resolve this is perhaps extend the time that a request lift is open? Maybe instead of requesting for 5 pages, we can request for 10 pages?

I wasn't here before the rules changed, so I don't know how the old system works, but I do think this current system takes a lot of time for mods (since there are lifts every few days), and frustrates anons who live in certain timezones. I think if we request for 10 pages instead, freeze lifts will happen once a week and hopefully last for ~10 hrs GMT.

Re: America - rice? o-o''

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
America's my favorite, but it's the same with him as it is every other character--they're countries. You can make an excuse to hook up anyone and written right, it'll read plausibly. I can easily accept America as the fandom bicycle so long as there's a sense of, "You're obnoxious, but sex with you would be nice, so why not?" coming from the other party. I have a harder time with everyone suddenly being his One True Love, interchangeably.

Re: We have a time zone system for request lift?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This might be a good thing to try. Open it up for ten pages, and make it 100 fills until the next opening.

The only problem is, anons will sit there and make multiple requests. So the spots can fill up just as quickly.

Re: Tokyopo translations re friends

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
/ayrt

Personally, I think that since it appears in two of the five profiles I know about, that it's pretty solid; and there were lots of characters introduced between volumes 1 & 2.

I'm not trying to say that Australia (etc) can't be friends with the US. I just think it's wrong to dismiss opinions on explicit canon. :/

Re: America - rice? o-o''

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Usually it's America the on with the ideas that derail meetings. And, as others have said, it's in the characters' notes.

Re: op requester!

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You are welcome! I hope you enjoy them.

Re: America - rice? o-o''

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't agree, I'm sorry to say. I think that, as others have said, his popularity makes him a very used characters, but I don't think he gets along (in canon) with everyone. In fact, as the quotation provided by another anon shows, canonically his only friends are England and Japan.

Personally, while he's my second favourite character, I see why people would not be head over heels for him if he were real: it takes a special kind of person to accept egoism, loudness and self-centred attitudes.

Now, in fandom, he's everyone's friend and a right fandom bicycle, which is fine and dandy, of course.

Re: We have a time zone system for request lift?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-28 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought about whatever the previous anon had suggested on the 10 pages before but then I thought of what the anon after that replied and that's been my reason on not poking the anons on 10 pages. People were complaining up there over one person who filled as much as they requested but they got yelled at it for it anyway :C.

What I do suggest is that instead of having a page system, the anons should have a day system, 3 days the kink meme's open and then it closes and we have XXX amount of fills to reach up to get it opened again, which will take 3 weeks worth of time; but that way be it any time zone difference we can all get our requests into the kink meme, even if an anon jumps the gun and belted out all their requests onto one page.

But that's my opinion =w=;;;

Re: Tokyopo translations re friends

(Anonymous) 2011-03-29 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not dismissing the canon at all. I'm just saying that since we haven't had an update on America's friends list since volume two, we won't know if the canon's expanded to include new characters until the next time he updates the profile. So it makes sense to say that South Korea and Canada aren't his friends, because they were already characters when those quotes were written. But we don't know about characters he created in the past year or two, that's all.

Re: We have a time zone system for request lift?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-29 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
That's way too slow. The freezes drag and people get discourage. We already had long freezes and people were unhappy.

Big Brothers of hetalia!

(Anonymous) 2011-03-29 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
What are your takes on the big brothers of hetalia? especially on the kink-meme? For me, I love the fact that I can read a very sweet BigBro!Prussia taking care of littlebro!Germany. Makes me all fuzzy inside :) Big brother Prussia is so sweet.

Oh yeah, and relating to this, I get confused sometimes concerning the NA bros, who is really the older twin brother? I mostly see Canada as the older twin (i think it's really awesome when sweet Mattie becomes a mama!bear for Alfred) , but I'm curious about other anons because I see a change in who's the oldest. :)

Re: Tokyopo translations re friends

(Anonymous) 2011-03-29 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Until there is a new character notes (if there is one) those notes are still the only canon that directly refers to this issue and are still valid. Canon is what is explicitly stated on the source material, everything else is fanon. So, if you want to make America be friends with, let's say, Papua New Guinea, do it, but remember that it's your theories and nothing more.